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[IAC#RG] India against Corruption wants pictures of other freedom fighters on currency notes
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Raminder Singh
2015-04-07 01:42:24 UTC
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Economic Times reports a very interesting development in AAP politics,
Kejriwal abandons Gandhi*giri* and chooses the confrontational path of
Bhagat Singh.

Raminder


*India against Corruption wants pictures of other freedom fighters on
currency notes*

*​IAC has proposed a new series of currency notes to counter fake currency
in circulation. Proposal has been sent to RBI to honour freedom fighters
<http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/india-against-corruption-wants-pictures-of-other-freedom-fighters-on-currency-notes/articleshow/46830469.cms>*

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/india-against-corruption-wants-pictures-of-other-freedom-fighters-on-currency-notes/articleshow/46830469.cms

*By NIDHI SHARMA, ET Bureau | 7 Apr, 2015, 01.22AM IST*

*NEW DELHI*: India Against Corruption, which was an umbrella initiative for
anti-corruption crusade and Lokpal campaign, has decided to start a "No
Gandhi" campaign against counterfeit currency. In its first major campaign
after Lokpal, when Arvind Kejriwal had led a splinter group to start Aam
Aadmi Party, India Against Corruption has proposed a new series of currency
notes to counter fake currency in circulation. IAC has sent a proposal to
RBI to introduce currency notes honouring other Indian other Indian heroes
of the Independence movement. IAC has proposed that Rs 100 denomination
notes with Mahatma Gandhi series be replaced by images of Shaheed Bhagat
Singh, Rs 500 notes with Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj image, Rs 1,000 notes
with Rabindranath Tagore image and Rs 200 with Tipu Sultan series.

Speaking to ET, IAC national convenor Sarbajit Roy said, "This is not a
suggestion or representation but a formal request from IAC movement for
grievance redressal to safeguard the integrity of the Indian state. In case
RBI does not take steps to address these concerns, we would stop accepting
the currency notes in circulation and start a "No Gandhi" movement.
rs chhikara
2015-04-07 03:51:33 UTC
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Would you please consider issuing of currency notes with the picture of Netaji Subhash; The greatest patriot and freedom fighter?
Brig R S Chhikara

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Sent: Tuesday, 7 April 2015 7:12 AM
Subject: [IAC#RG] India against Corruption wants pictures of other freedom fighters on currency notes

Economic Times reports a very interesting development in AAP politics, Kejriwal abandons Gandhigiri and chooses the confrontational path of Bhagat Singh.

Raminder

India against Corruption wants pictures of other freedom fighters on currency notes


​IAC  has proposed a new series of currency notes to counter fake currency in circulation. Proposal has been sent to RBI to honour freedom fighters

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/india-against-corruption-wants-pictures-of-other-freedom-fighters-on-currency-notes/articleshow/46830469.cms

By NIDHI SHARMA, ET Bureau | 7 Apr, 2015, 01.22AM IST

NEW DELHI: India Against Corruption, which was an umbrella initiative for anti-corruption crusade and Lokpal campaign, has decided to start a "No Gandhi" campaign against counterfeit currency. In its first major campaign after Lokpal, when Arvind Kejriwal had led a splinter group to start Aam Aadmi Party, India Against Corruption has proposed a new series of currency notes to counter fake currency in circulation. IAC has sent a proposal to RBI to introduce currency notes honouring other Indian other Indian heroes of the Independence movement. IAC has proposed that Rs 100 denomination notes with Mahatma Gandhi series be replaced by images of Shaheed Bhagat Singh, Rs 500 notes with Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj image, Rs 1,000 notes with Rabindranath Tagore image and Rs 200 with Tipu Sultan series.

Speaking to ET, IAC national convenor Sarbajit Roy said, "This is not a suggestion or representation but a formal request from IAC movement for grievance redressal to safeguard the integrity of the Indian state. In case RBI does not take steps to address these concerns, we would stop accepting the currency notes in circulation and start a "No Gandhi" movement.

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Sarbajit Roy
2015-04-09 03:04:16 UTC
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Dear Brig R.S. Chhikara

IAC had already done the needful, and Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose's
image is also one of those we suggested, along with Veer Savarkar,
Tilak, Lala Lajpat Rai etc. to be issued in large quantities..

Since the ET report was necessarily brief, our entire proposal can be
read online at
http://www.iacwiki.in/index.php?n=Main.PUBLICGRIEVANCEConcerningRBIsMGSeriesBanknotes

The relevant paras being :-

"E) That additional series of educative bank notes with visages of
iconic Indians in varied walks of lifes and regions shall be regularly
added in all the standard denominations of Rs. 10, Rs. 20, Rs. 50. eg.
Babasaheb Ambedkar, Jhansi ki Rani, Lala Lajpat Rai, Bal Gangadhar
Tilak, Veer Savarkar, Abul Kalam Azad, Netaji Subhash Bose etc. in
large quantities to benefit and uplift the common people.

F) That considering the unique security and demographic threats
against our 8 North-Eastern States, a special series of banknotes of
Rs.100, Rs. 200, Rs. 500 and Rs. 1,000 denominations be rapidly issued
to commemorate freedom fighters of the North-East like Rani Ma
Gaidinliu, U Tirot Singh, Kanak Lata Barua, Tikendra Jit Singh etc. to
forge their unity and clearly demonstrate that people of mainland
India are reciprocally bound to acknowledge and respect unsung
North-East heroes/martyrs contributions for the anti-colonial
struggle. "

IAC has sincerely tried to cover the entire spectrum of India's
patriots, and we ourselves acknowledge that this is only the first
step in a very long war which is to follow to correct this national
injustice and fraud on the citizens.

IAC firmly opposes any kind of personality cult, be it Gandhi, Gandhi
parivar, Narendra Modi, Arvind Kejriwal etc. We firmly believe in
selfless sacrifice and duty without any personal interest or desire
for fame and name.

As a few of our members have also asked for clarifications on how this
project is connected to IAC's scope and as "anti-corruption" work, I
explain below

a) Our campaign is covered under "General Economic Reform And Policy"
mentioned at clause 3.008 of IAC's Charter.

b) A devaluation / rapid withdrawal of MG series notes will greatly
hamper the black money operators, parallel bankers, havala dealers,
tax evaders and so on. We expect declared values of property prices,
and correspondingly the circle rates, to start rising once IAC
launches its campaign from 2 Oct 2015.

c) It is an open secret that in Delhi there is at least 25% and
normally 50% "currency component" in property transactions. The
situation elsewhere is worse. Not only does the State lose revenue by
way of stamp duty, but small property owners like salary earners
cannot get loans for the huge currency component prevalent in property
deals which are instead disguised as "furniture and fittings" etc.

d) These notes generated and hidden away in property deals cannot come
back in circulation, and are either used to further speculate in
property - creating an asset bubble - or are used for lavish lifestyle
with all its attendant evils.

We shall be highlighting all these things to RBI, in the 2nd round.

Sarbajit
Post by rs chhikara
Would you please consider issuing of currency notes with the picture of
Netaji Subhash; The greatest patriot and freedom fighter?
Brig R S Chhikara
Sent: Tuesday, 7 April 2015 7:12 AM
Subject: [IAC#RG] India against Corruption wants pictures of other freedom
fighters on currency notes
Economic Times reports a very interesting development in AAP politics,
Kejriwal abandons Gandhigiri and chooses the confrontational path of Bhagat
Singh.
Raminder
India against Corruption wants pictures of other freedom fighters on currency notes
​IAC has proposed a new series of currency notes to counter fake currency
in circulation. Proposal has been sent to RBI to honour freedom fighters
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/india-against-corruption-wants-pictures-of-other-freedom-fighters-on-currency-notes/articleshow/46830469.cms
By NIDHI SHARMA, ET Bureau | 7 Apr, 2015, 01.22AM IST
NEW DELHI: India Against Corruption, which was an umbrella initiative for
anti-corruption crusade and Lokpal campaign, has decided to start a "No
Gandhi" campaign against counterfeit currency. In its first major campaign
after Lokpal, when Arvind Kejriwal had led a splinter group to start Aam
Aadmi Party, India Against Corruption has proposed a new series of currency
notes to counter fake currency in circulation. IAC has sent a proposal to
RBI to introduce currency notes honouring other Indian other Indian heroes
of the Independence movement. IAC has proposed that Rs 100 denomination
notes with Mahatma Gandhi series be replaced by images of Shaheed Bhagat
Singh, Rs 500 notes with Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj image, Rs 1,000 notes
with Rabindranath Tagore image and Rs 200 with Tipu Sultan series.
Speaking to ET, IAC national convenor Sarbajit Roy said, "This is not a
suggestion or representation but a formal request from IAC movement for
grievance redressal to safeguard the integrity of the Indian state. In case
RBI does not take steps to address these concerns, we would stop accepting
the currency notes in circulation and start a "No Gandhi" movement.
rs chhikara
2015-04-09 04:42:51 UTC
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Dear Sarbajit.

Thanks for your response.

We at Netaji Subhash Bose - INA Trust believe that Netaji Subhash Bose was not just another freedom fighter. He was the greatest patriot during recent centuries and his contribution to India's freedom stands well above that of Gandhi. The Pseudo Gandhi dynasty is not worth speaking about.
There is urgent need to recognise him as THE NATIONAL ICON of INDIA.

His ideology and vision are extremely relevant today.

Brig R S ChhikaraExecutive Vice ChairmanNetaji Subhash Bose-INA Trust

From: Sarbajit Roy <***@gmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, 9 April 2015 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] India against Corruption wants pictures of other freedom fighters on currency notes

Dear Brig R.S. Chhikara

IAC had already done the needful, and Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose's
image is also one of those we suggested, along with Veer Savarkar,
Tilak, Lala Lajpat Rai etc. to be issued in large quantities..

Since the ET report was necessarily brief, our entire proposal can be
read online at
http://www.iacwiki.in/index.php?n=Main.PUBLICGRIEVANCEConcerningRBIsMGSeriesBanknotes

The relevant paras being :-

"E) That additional series of educative bank notes with visages of
iconic Indians in varied walks of lifes and regions shall be regularly
added in all the standard denominations of Rs. 10, Rs. 20, Rs. 50. eg.
Babasaheb Ambedkar, Jhansi ki Rani, Lala Lajpat Rai, Bal Gangadhar
Tilak, Veer Savarkar, Abul Kalam Azad, Netaji Subhash Bose etc. in
large quantities to benefit and uplift the common people.

F) That considering the unique security and demographic threats
against our 8 North-Eastern States, a special series of banknotes of
Rs.100, Rs. 200, Rs. 500 and Rs. 1,000 denominations be rapidly issued
to commemorate freedom fighters of the North-East like Rani Ma
Gaidinliu, U Tirot Singh, Kanak Lata Barua, Tikendra Jit Singh etc. to
forge their unity and clearly demonstrate that people of mainland
India are reciprocally bound to acknowledge and respect unsung
North-East heroes/martyrs contributions for the anti-colonial
struggle. "

IAC has sincerely tried to cover the entire spectrum of India's
patriots, and we ourselves acknowledge that this is only the first
step in a very long war which is to follow to correct this national
injustice and fraud on the citizens.

IAC firmly opposes any kind of personality cult, be it Gandhi, Gandhi
parivar, Narendra Modi, Arvind Kejriwal etc. We firmly believe in
selfless sacrifice and duty without any personal interest or desire
for fame and name.

As a few of our members have also asked for clarifications on how this
project is connected to IAC's scope and as "anti-corruption" work, I
explain below

a) Our campaign is covered under "General Economic Reform And Policy"
mentioned at clause 3.008 of IAC's Charter.

b) A devaluation / rapid withdrawal of MG series notes will greatly
hamper the black money operators, parallel bankers, havala dealers,
tax evaders and so on. We expect declared values of property prices,
and correspondingly the circle rates, to start rising once IAC
launches its campaign from 2 Oct 2015.

c) It is an open secret that in Delhi there is at least 25% and
normally 50% "currency component" in property transactions. The
situation elsewhere is worse. Not only does the State lose revenue by
way of stamp duty, but small property owners like salary earners
cannot get loans for the huge currency component prevalent in property
deals which are instead disguised as "furniture and fittings" etc.

d) These notes generated and hidden away in property deals cannot come
back in circulation, and are either used to further speculate in
property - creating an asset bubble - or are used for lavish lifestyle
with all its attendant evils.

We shall be highlighting all these things to RBI, in the 2nd round.

Sarbajit
Post by rs chhikara
Would you please consider issuing of currency notes with the picture of
Netaji Subhash; The greatest patriot and freedom fighter?
Brig R S Chhikara
  Sent: Tuesday, 7 April 2015 7:12 AM
  Subject: [IAC#RG] India against Corruption wants pictures of other freedom
fighters on currency notes
Economic Times reports a very interesting development in AAP politics,
Kejriwal abandons Gandhigiri and chooses the confrontational path of Bhagat
Singh.
Raminder
India against Corruption wants pictures of other freedom fighters on currency notes
​IAC  has proposed a new series of currency notes to counter fake currency
in circulation. Proposal has been sent to RBI to honour freedom fighters
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/india-against-corruption-wants-pictures-of-other-freedom-fighters-on-currency-notes/articleshow/46830469.cms
By NIDHI SHARMA, ET Bureau | 7 Apr, 2015, 01.22AM IST
NEW DELHI: India Against Corruption, which was an umbrella initiative for
anti-corruption crusade and Lokpal campaign, has decided to start a "No
Gandhi" campaign against counterfeit currency. In its first major campaign
after Lokpal, when Arvind Kejriwal had led a splinter group to start Aam
Aadmi Party, India Against Corruption has proposed a new series of currency
notes to counter fake currency in circulation. IAC has sent a proposal to
RBI to introduce currency notes honouring other Indian other Indian heroes
of the Independence movement. IAC has proposed that Rs 100 denomination
notes with Mahatma Gandhi series be replaced by images of Shaheed Bhagat
Singh, Rs 500 notes with Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj image, Rs 1,000 notes
with Rabindranath Tagore image and Rs 200 with Tipu Sultan series.
Speaking to ET, IAC national convenor Sarbajit Roy said, "This is not a
suggestion or representation but a formal request from IAC movement for
grievance redressal to safeguard the integrity of the Indian state. In case
RBI does not take steps to address these concerns, we would stop accepting
the currency notes in circulation and start a "No Gandhi" movement.
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Sarbajit Roy
2015-04-09 05:35:18 UTC
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Dear Brig Chhikara

Sir,

Thanks for your prompt response.

1) At the outset let me inform you that Netaji was my paternal
great-grandfather's student in patriotism, and the student repaid his
debt to his teacher by saving his teacher's life.

2) As you may recall the IAC is part of a larger and ancient patriotic
movement from the 19th century, which is deeply aware of and immersed
in its history and pays homage to all those who came before us and on
whose work we build on today, Netaji included.

3) As IAC is a pan-Indian movement we have to carefully calibrate our
choices for maximum impact and support. I am sure you will not
disagree that the first objective is to dislodge Gandhi and repel his
image from the common psyche rather than replace him by anybody
specific.

4) The 4 names IAC has proposed were selected after considerable
internal discussions in the wider movements, to provide an initial
impact, balanced representations and a better overall shot at success.
Since apparently I shall be personally spearheading this campaign if
we have to do so, I would find it far easier to make a case for Tagore
versus Gandhi, rather than Netaji versus Gandhi for the Rs. 1,000
note.

5) I also want to make it clear that we are presently not changing the
names IAC is proposing. I am proceeding for the annual retreat /
meeting of IAC's parent body today, and I shall certainly faithfully
convey the views of your INA trust to my seniors.

6) May I also say, humbly, it is also because of such sectarianisms
that the Govt is able to successfully divide us. Hence we appeal to
all those with IAC not to press any names at this stage and focus on
the common larger objectives of nation building and anti-corruption..

Sarbajit
Post by rs chhikara
Dear Sarbajit.
Thanks for your response.
We at Netaji Subhash Bose - INA Trust believe that Netaji Subhash Bose was
not just another freedom fighter. He was the greatest patriot during recent
centuries and his contribution to India's freedom stands well above that of
Gandhi. The Pseudo Gandhi dynasty is not worth speaking about.
There is urgent need to recognise him as THE NATIONAL ICON of INDIA.
His ideology and vision are extremely relevant today.
Brig R S ChhikaraExecutive Vice ChairmanNetaji Subhash Bose-INA Trust
Sent: Thursday, 9 April 2015 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] India against Corruption wants pictures of other
freedom fighters on currency notes
Dear Brig R.S. Chhikara
IAC had already done the needful, and Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose's
image is also one of those we suggested, along with Veer Savarkar,
Tilak, Lala Lajpat Rai etc. to be issued in large quantities..
rs chhikara
2015-04-09 11:15:02 UTC
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Dear Sarbajit .
I entirely agree with your contentions in Para 3 and Para 6 but not Para 4. A deeper study of the freedom movement and the antagonistic actions of Gandhi, Jawahar and other acolites  would highlight the fact that it is infact easier to project Subhash as No 1 in your list.His achievements were not only inspite of but also
regardless of Gandhi. 
Having said that I will not insist on any change in your priorities because Subhash will get his due regardless of any thing else because people of India recognise his place in history.


RegardsBrig R S Chhikara


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Sent: Thursday, 9 April 2015 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] India against Corruption wants pictures of other freedom fighters on currency notes

Dear Brig Chhikara

Sir,

Thanks for your prompt response.

1) At the outset let me inform you that Netaji was my paternal
great-grandfather's student in patriotism, and the student repaid his
debt to his teacher by saving his teacher's life.

2) As you may recall the IAC is part of a larger and ancient patriotic
movement from the 19th century, which is deeply aware of and immersed
in its history and pays homage to all those who came before us and on
whose work we build on today, Netaji included.

3) As IAC is a pan-Indian movement we have to carefully calibrate our
choices for maximum impact and support. I am sure you will not
disagree that the first objective is to dislodge Gandhi and repel his
image from the common psyche rather than replace him by anybody
specific.

4) The 4 names IAC has proposed were selected after considerable
internal discussions in the wider movements, to provide an initial
impact, balanced representations and a better overall shot at success.
Since apparently I shall be personally spearheading this campaign if
we have to do so, I would find it far easier to make a case for Tagore
versus Gandhi, rather than Netaji versus Gandhi for the Rs. 1,000
note.

5) I also want to make it clear that we are presently not changing the
names IAC is proposing. I am proceeding for the annual retreat /
meeting of IAC's parent body today, and I shall certainly faithfully
convey the views of your INA trust to my seniors.

6) May I also say, humbly, it is also because of such sectarianisms
that the Govt is able to successfully divide us. Hence we appeal to
all those with IAC not to press any names at this stage and focus on
the common larger objectives of nation building and anti-corruption..

Sarbajit
Post by rs chhikara
Dear Sarbajit.
Thanks for your response.
We at Netaji Subhash Bose - INA Trust believe that Netaji Subhash Bose was
not just another freedom fighter. He was the greatest patriot during recent
centuries and his contribution to India's freedom stands well above that of
Gandhi. The Pseudo Gandhi dynasty is not worth speaking about.
There is urgent need to recognise him as THE NATIONAL ICON of INDIA.
His ideology and vision are extremely relevant today.
Brig R S ChhikaraExecutive Vice ChairmanNetaji Subhash Bose-INA Trust
  Sent: Thursday, 9 April 2015 8:34 AM
  Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] India against Corruption wants pictures of other
freedom fighters on currency notes
Dear Brig R.S. Chhikara
IAC had already done the needful, and Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose's
image is also one of those we suggested, along with Veer Savarkar,
Tilak, Lala Lajpat Rai etc. to be issued in large quantities..
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Dinesh Verma
2015-04-10 14:02:55 UTC
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Dear All readers,
Some important matters ,relevant to curtail corruption, is under
debate.Different views are always invited .It strengths the democratic
charector.
To create an institution of Lok Pal ,recommendation was
initially made in the year 1968.Inspite of peoples call assembled with Sri
Shambhu Dutt Ji &
Sri Anna Hazare and also at various places ,the Institution is still born.
To awaken the people ,and the Conscience of Government and
Parliament of India to Govt's failure to frame laws for creating the
institution of Lok Pal Satyagrah was observed on 24th Nov.2007 at the
Statue of Sardar Vallbh Bhai Patel ,in Hazrat ganj at Lucknow ,U.P.
Even the 2nd Administrative Reforms Commission headed by Sri
Moily and constitution by U P A Govt.supported this.
Only God knows when the institution would really start
working.

D.C.Verma
,

On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 11:42 AM, AK Bhattacharyya <
Brigadier Chikara,
I entirely agree with you.There should be no doubt about the contribution
to the country.
With kind regards
A.K.BHATTACHARYYA
F.I.StructE (UK), FIE (India), FIBE, FIRT
H-2A, Hauzkhas, New Delhi -16, Ph:011-26854127
On Thursday, April 9, 2015 11:14 PM, rs chhikara <
Dear Sarbajit .
I entirely agree with your contentions in Para 3 and Para 6 but not Para
4. A deeper study of the freedom movement and the antagonistic actions of
Gandhi, Jawahar and other acolites would highlight the fact that it is
infact easier to project Subhash as No 1 in your list.His achievements were
not only inspite of but also
regardless of Gandhi.
Having said that I will not insist on any change in your priorities
because Subhash will get his due regardless of any thing else because
people of India recognise his place in history.
Regards
Brig R S Chhikara
------------------------------
*Sent:* Thursday, 9 April 2015 11:05 AM
*Subject:* Re: [IAC#RG] India against Corruption wants pictures of other
freedom fighters on currency notes
Dear Brig Chhikara
Sir,
Thanks for your prompt response.
1) At the outset let me inform you that Netaji was my paternal
great-grandfather's student in patriotism, and the student repaid his
debt to his teacher by saving his teacher's life.
2) As you may recall the IAC is part of a larger and ancient patriotic
movement from the 19th century, which is deeply aware of and immersed
in its history and pays homage to all those who came before us and on
whose work we build on today, Netaji included.
3) As IAC is a pan-Indian movement we have to carefully calibrate our
choices for maximum impact and support. I am sure you will not
disagree that the first objective is to dislodge Gandhi and repel his
image from the common psyche rather than replace him by anybody
specific.
4) The 4 names IAC has proposed were selected after considerable
internal discussions in the wider movements, to provide an initial
impact, balanced representations and a better overall shot at success.
Since apparently I shall be personally spearheading this campaign if
we have to do so, I would find it far easier to make a case for Tagore
versus Gandhi, rather than Netaji versus Gandhi for the Rs. 1,000
note.
5) I also want to make it clear that we are presently not changing the
names IAC is proposing. I am proceeding for the annual retreat /
meeting of IAC's parent body today, and I shall certainly faithfully
convey the views of your INA trust to my seniors.
6) May I also say, humbly, it is also because of such sectarianisms
that the Govt is able to successfully divide us. Hence we appeal to
all those with IAC not to press any names at this stage and focus on
the common larger objectives of nation building and anti-corruption..
Sarbajit
Post by rs chhikara
Dear Sarbajit.
Thanks for your response.
We at Netaji Subhash Bose - INA Trust believe that Netaji Subhash Bose
was
Post by rs chhikara
not just another freedom fighter. He was the greatest patriot during
recent
Post by rs chhikara
centuries and his contribution to India's freedom stands well above that
of
Post by rs chhikara
Gandhi. The Pseudo Gandhi dynasty is not worth speaking about.
There is urgent need to recognise him as THE NATIONAL ICON of INDIA.
His ideology and vision are extremely relevant today.
Brig R S ChhikaraExecutive Vice ChairmanNetaji Subhash Bose-INA Trust
Sent: Thursday, 9 April 2015 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] India against Corruption wants pictures of other
freedom fighters on currency notes
Dear Brig R.S. Chhikara
IAC had already done the needful, and Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose's
image is also one of those we suggested, along with Veer Savarkar,
Tilak, Lala Lajpat Rai etc. to be issued in large quantities..
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Gandhiji said that what we got from Britishers was a political freedom. The
struggle for economic freedom would give us true freedom.

The villages are enslaved by an urban centric economic system. Entire
village masses are suffering from penury and misery. They are migrating to
cities, where they fall into a greater trap.

A man, unsung in most of India, brought economic freedom to masses living
in villages in preindependence United Punjab. He struggled to free village
peasantry from the clutches of money lenders in United Punjab and succeeded
very well with two revolutionary Acts in 1936-37. He brought prosperity to
villages. Whenever his party came to power he took the role of Revenue
minister and left the post of CM to Faizle ur Rehaman and Sikander Bakht.
As revenue minister in his Unionist Party led government, he brought many
policies in United Punjab that uplifted the rural people from poverty. He
exposed Congress and Muslim League so well in front of people that these
two parties could never win more than 2 seats in Provincial elections till
this man was alive i.e till 1945. His struggle started in 1921 when he left
Congress due to its anti rural ideologies. Some years thereafter he formed
Unionist Party.
He understood the urban rural bias in those ages so well that he said: " I
have greater regard and sympathy for a rural Muslim than a urban Hindu" He
was poisoned, allegedly by members of Hindu trading community, at Lahore in
1945 and died. Had he been alive, India would never have been divided.
Muslim League's fundamentalist designs were rebuked by Muslim's followers
of Unionist Party led by this man.
When a Pakistan Chief Justice took oath, he stated that he owes his rise to
policies of this man. This man's picture was displayed in background when
this Chief Justice took oath. In 2009, a member of Pakistani Hockey team
desired to visit Garhi Sampla in Haryana to take away a handful of soil
from this land to fullfill the wishes of his father back in Pakistan.

But this man is almost obliterated from Indian history today because he
challenged the urban centric, middle class supported, anti- rural Congress
in pre independence India and never allowed it to get more than 2 seats in
United Punjab Provincial Assembly. The earlier version of BJP i.e Jan sangh
was treated in the same manner by this man.

This man forced Britishers to raise MSP for crops by 1.5 times in a single
stroke.
In Pakistan, India's Haryana and Punjab, this man is a household name. He
is referred as Rehbaar-A-Azam in pakistan; In India as " Deen Bandhu."
Britishers called him " Sir."

This man's was....................
CHOTTU RAM.

I would love this man's pic on most currency notes.

PS. I may err at small deviation of facts but not significant.
Post by rs chhikara
Dear Sarbajit .
I entirely agree with your contentions in Para 3 and Para 6 but not Para
4. A deeper study of the freedom movement and the antagonistic actions of
Gandhi, Jawahar and other acolites would highlight the fact that it is
infact easier to project Subhash as No 1 in your list.His achievements were
not only inspite of but also
regardless of Gandhi.
Having said that I will not insist on any change in your priorities
because Subhash will get his due regardless of any thing else because
people of India recognise his place in history.
Regards
Brig R S Chhikara
------------------------------
*Sent:* Thursday, 9 April 2015 11:05 AM
*Subject:* Re: [IAC#RG] India against Corruption wants pictures of other
freedom fighters on currency notes
Dear Brig Chhikara
Sir,
Thanks for your prompt response.
1) At the outset let me inform you that Netaji was my paternal
great-grandfather's student in patriotism, and the student repaid his
debt to his teacher by saving his teacher's life.
2) As you may recall the IAC is part of a larger and ancient patriotic
movement from the 19th century, which is deeply aware of and immersed
in its history and pays homage to all those who came before us and on
whose work we build on today, Netaji included.
3) As IAC is a pan-Indian movement we have to carefully calibrate our
choices for maximum impact and support. I am sure you will not
disagree that the first objective is to dislodge Gandhi and repel his
image from the common psyche rather than replace him by anybody
specific.
4) The 4 names IAC has proposed were selected after considerable
internal discussions in the wider movements, to provide an initial
impact, balanced representations and a better overall shot at success.
Since apparently I shall be personally spearheading this campaign if
we have to do so, I would find it far easier to make a case for Tagore
versus Gandhi, rather than Netaji versus Gandhi for the Rs. 1,000
note.
5) I also want to make it clear that we are presently not changing the
names IAC is proposing. I am proceeding for the annual retreat /
meeting of IAC's parent body today, and I shall certainly faithfully
convey the views of your INA trust to my seniors.
6) May I also say, humbly, it is also because of such sectarianisms
that the Govt is able to successfully divide us. Hence we appeal to
all those with IAC not to press any names at this stage and focus on
the common larger objectives of nation building and anti-corruption..
Sarbajit
Post by rs chhikara
Dear Sarbajit.
Thanks for your response.
We at Netaji Subhash Bose - INA Trust believe that Netaji Subhash Bose
was
Post by rs chhikara
not just another freedom fighter. He was the greatest patriot during
recent
Post by rs chhikara
centuries and his contribution to India's freedom stands well above that
of
Post by rs chhikara
Gandhi. The Pseudo Gandhi dynasty is not worth speaking about.
There is urgent need to recognise him as THE NATIONAL ICON of INDIA.
His ideology and vision are extremely relevant today.
Brig R S ChhikaraExecutive Vice ChairmanNetaji Subhash Bose-INA Trust
Sent: Thursday, 9 April 2015 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] India against Corruption wants pictures of other
freedom fighters on currency notes
Dear Brig R.S. Chhikara
IAC had already done the needful, and Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose's
image is also one of those we suggested, along with Veer Savarkar,
Tilak, Lala Lajpat Rai etc. to be issued in large quantities..
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Dear GSSB / S.K Aggarwal

I recall the month of January 2011 very well because I was in India
reporting on it for the UK media.

Shambhu Dutt Sharma was the Vice Chairman of TI and was on a pre-announced
fast for Lokpal along with 5 others which had been announced in August
2010. It was known that the jittery Congress leadership got Arvind
Kejriwal, Kiran Bedi, Agnivesh and Sri Sri Raviishekaran to visit Sharma to
call off their fast unto death. GSSB's then Secretary Ashok was also
backing these persons to appeal the fast to be called off. However, the
IAC's convenor Sarabjit had written to GSSB, like Justice Nath, not to
trust these people and to carry on the fast.

The end result is that due to those known corrupt persons the Lokpal
movement now lies in ruins. The Lokpal when it is established is certain to
be the most corrupt body in the country.

As I have generally found Sarabjit's team reporting to be fair and
balanced, you should visit their website
http://indiaagainstcorruption.org.in and read what they have to say on this
subject - *The real Lokpal movement of GSSB and how "Team Anna" hijacked it
<http://indiaagainstcorruption.org.in/#tocanchor8>*.


*Raminder*

On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Gandhian Satyagraha Brigade <
Post by Gandhian Satyagraha Brigade
Dear Shri Raminder Singh,
Thanks for forwarding the Economic Times report by Nidhi about Kejriwal's
role in the movement for Lokpal Bill.
In this connection, we wish to inform you that the movement for the enactment
of “OMBUDSMAN” –LOKPAL BILL – creating LOKPAL at the centre and LOKAYUTAS
in the states was undertaken some 46 years back.
The Gandhian Seva & Satyagraha Brigade (formerly LOK SEVAK SANGH) along
with TI India started a crusade for this LOKPAL (OMBUDSMAN) and effective
implementation of Citizens’ Charters & Prevention of Corruption Act in the
Gandhian way decade ago. Apart from requesting through regular
communications to various important personalities, including the Prime
Ministers and heads of all the leading political parties, they resorted to
Satyagraha in the Gandhian way and Fast-unto-Death many times. They have
repeatedly received assurances of various dignitaries, including the then
Prime Minister (Late) Shri I K Gujral.
The TURNING POINT in this crusade came during the fast-unto-death on
January 30th, 2011, when after the rally for Jan Lokpal by Shri Anna
Hazare at Ramlila Maidan, his then associates including Swami Agnivesh,
Kiran Bedi, Arvind Kejriwal, Father Dominique and Advocate Prashant Bhusan,
came straight from Ramlila Maidan to New Delhi’s Jantar Mantar where the
then 93 year old (now in his 97th year) Freedom Fighter and Gandhian Shri
Shambhu Dutta Ji was sitting on “FAST UNTO DEATH” with his other
colleagues. They made a passionate and forceful plea to him and his
colleagues to break his fast onto death and give his blessings to them to
carry on this crusade and for its success. Kiran Bedi also said to Shri
Shambhu Dutta Ji, “I am sitting at your feet and will not get up till you
end your fast” since he is quite elder even to her father and hence now it
is their responsibility to ensure the enactment of Lokpal.
Let our Republic grow from strength to strength where every citizen is
provided an effective grievance redressal mechanism & feels safe. We all
see each other as Indians only irrespective of caste, colour or creed.
It is just for your information.
Thanks & regards,
S K Agarwal,
Gen Secy.
Post by Raminder Singh
Economic Times reports a very interesting development in AAP politics,
Kejriwal abandons Gandhi*giri* and chooses the confrontational path of
Bhagat Singh.
Raminder
*India against Corruption wants pictures of other freedom fighters on
currency notes*
*IAC has proposed a new series of currency notes to counter fake
currency in circulation. Proposal has been sent to RBI to honour freedom
fighters
<http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/india-against-corruption-wants-pictures-of-other-freedom-fighters-on-currency-notes/articleshow/46830469.cms>*
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/india-against-corruption-wants-pictures-of-other-freedom-fighters-on-currency-notes/articleshow/46830469.cms
*By NIDHI SHARMA, ET Bureau | 7 Apr, 2015, 01.22AM IST*
*NEW DELHI*: India Against Corruption, which was an umbrella initiative
for anti-corruption crusade and Lokpal campaign, has decided to start a "No
Gandhi" campaign against counterfeit currency. In its first major campaign
after Lokpal, when Arvind Kejriwal had led a splinter group to start Aam
Aadmi Party, India Against Corruption has proposed a new series of currency
notes to counter fake currency in circulation. IAC has sent a proposal to
RBI to introduce currency notes honouring other Indian other Indian heroes
of the Independence movement. IAC has proposed that Rs 100 denomination
notes with Mahatma Gandhi series be replaced by images of Shaheed Bhagat
Singh, Rs 500 notes with Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj image, Rs 1,000 notes
with Rabindranath Tagore image and Rs 200 with Tipu Sultan series.
Speaking to ET, IAC national convenor Sarbajit Roy said, "This is not a
suggestion or representation but a formal request from IAC movement for
grievance redressal to safeguard the integrity of the Indian state. In case
RBI does not take steps to address these concerns, we would stop accepting
the currency notes in circulation and start a "No Gandhi" movement.
--
GANDHIAN SEVA & SATYAGRAHA BRIGADE
Lajpat Bhawan, Qr. No. - 4, Lajpat Nagar - IV
New Delhi - 110024
Ph.: 011- 2646 4688; 40765520
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2015-04-11 08:42:50 UTC
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I, ofcourse fully agree, being the son of the Adjutant General, Col. D.C. Nag, tasked by Subhash Bose to write up the INA Act and defend this at the INA trial in Delhi 1946. They were committed to lay down their lives to free India from British rule. There is no concrete evidence that Gandhi and Nehru were committed to lay down their lives to free India. They rather 'incited' the people to rebel, and die if required ! They abhorred personal violence.---------Hirak Nag.
--------------------------------------------
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Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] India against Corruption wants pictures of other freedom fighters on currency notes
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Date: Friday, 10 April, 2015, 11:42 AM

Brigadier
Chikara,
I entirely agree with
you.There should be no doubt about the contribution to the
country. With kind
regards
A.K.BHATTACHARYYA

F.I.StructE
(UK), FIE (India), FIBE, FIRT
H-2A, Hauzkhas, New Delhi -16, Ph:011-26854127



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9, 2015 11:14 PM, rs chhikara
<***@yahoo.co.in> wrote:


Dear
Sarbajit .
I entirely
agree with your contentions in Para 3 and Para 6 but not
Para 4. A deeper study of the freedom movement and the
antagonistic actions of Gandhi, Jawahar and other
acolites  would highlight the fact that it is infact
easier to project Subhash as No 1 in your list.His
achievements were not only inspite of but also
regardless
of Gandhi. 
Having
said that I will not insist on any change in your priorities
because Subhash will get his due regardless of any thing
else because people of India recognise his place in
history.


RegardsBrig R S
Chhikara




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India against Corruption wants pictures of other freedom
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Dear Brig Chhikara

Sir,

Thanks
for your prompt response.

1) At the outset let me inform you that Netaji
was my paternal
great-grandfather's
student in patriotism, and the student repaid his
debt to his teacher by saving his teacher's
life.

2) As you may recall
the IAC is part of a larger and ancient patriotic
movement from the 19th century, which is deeply
aware of and immersed
in its history and
pays homage to all those who came before us and on
whose work we build on today, Netaji
included.

3) As IAC is a
pan-Indian movement we have to carefully calibrate our
choices for maximum impact and support. I am
sure you will not
disagree that the first
objective is to dislodge Gandhi and repel his
image from the common psyche rather than
replace him by anybody
specific.

4) The 4 names IAC has
proposed were selected after considerable
internal discussions in the wider movements, to
provide an initial
impact, balanced
representations and a better overall shot at success.
Since apparently I shall be personally
spearheading this campaign if
we have to do
so, I would find it far easier to make a case for Tagore
versus Gandhi, rather than Netaji versus Gandhi
for the Rs. 1,000
note.

5) I also want to make it clear that we are
presently not changing the
names IAC is
proposing. I am proceeding for the annual retreat /
meeting of IAC's parent body today, and I
shall certainly faithfully
convey the views
of your INA trust to my seniors.

6) May I also say, humbly, it is also because
of such sectarianisms
that the Govt is able
to successfully divide us. Hence we appeal to
all those with IAC not to press any names at
this stage and focus on
the common larger
objectives of nation building and anti-corruption..

Sarbajit



On 4/9/15, rs
Post by rs chhikara
Dear Sarbajit.
Thanks for your
response.
Post by rs chhikara
We at
Netaji Subhash Bose - INA Trust believe that Netaji Subhash
Bose was
Post by rs chhikara
not just another freedom
fighter. He was the greatest patriot during recent
Post by rs chhikara
centuries and his contribution to
India's freedom stands well above that of
Post by rs chhikara
Gandhi. The Pseudo Gandhi dynasty is not
worth speaking about.
Post by rs chhikara
There is urgent
need to recognise him as THE NATIONAL ICON of INDIA.
Post by rs chhikara
His ideology and
vision are extremely relevant today.
Post by rs chhikara
Brig R S ChhikaraExecutive Vice
ChairmanNetaji Subhash Bose-INA Trust
Post by rs chhikara
     
  Sent: Thursday, 9 April 2015 8:34
AM
Post by rs chhikara
  Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] India
against Corruption wants pictures of other
Post by rs chhikara
freedom fighters on currency notes
Dear Brig R.S.
Chhikara
Post by rs chhikara
IAC had
already done the needful, and Netaji Subhash Chandra
Bose's
Post by rs chhikara
image is also one of those
we suggested, along with Veer Savarkar,
Tilak, Lala Lajpat Rai etc. to be issued in large
quantities..
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I, ofcourse fully agree, being the son of the Adjutant General, Col. D.C. Nag, tasked by Subhash Bose to write up the INA Act and defend this at the INA trial in Delhi 1946. They were committed to lay down their lives to free India from British rule. There is no concrete evidence that Gandhi and Nehru were committed to lay down their lives to free India. They rather 'incited' the people to rebel, and die if required ! They abhorred personal violence.---------Hirak Nag.
--------------------------------------------
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] India against Corruption wants pictures of other freedom fighters on currency notes
Date: Friday, 10 April, 2015, 11:42 AM
Brigadier
Chikara,
I entirely agree with
you.There should be no doubt about the contribution to the
country. With kind
regards
A.K.BHATTACHARYYA
F.I.StructE
(UK), FIE (India), FIBE, FIRT
H-2A, Hauzkhas, New Delhi -16, Ph:011-26854127
On Thursday, April
9, 2015 11:14 PM, rs chhikara
Dear
Sarbajit .
I entirely
agree with your contentions in Para 3 and Para 6 but not
Para 4. A deeper study of the freedom movement and the
antagonistic actions of Gandhi, Jawahar and other
acolites would highlight the fact that it is infact
easier to project Subhash as No 1 in your list.His
achievements were not only inspite of but also
regardless
of Gandhi.
Having
said that I will not insist on any change in your priorities
because Subhash will get his due regardless of any thing
else because people of India recognise his place in
history.
RegardsBrig R S
Chhikara
From: Sarbajit Roy
Thursday, 9 April 2015 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG]
India against Corruption wants pictures of other freedom
fighters on currency notes
Dear Brig Chhikara
Sir,
Thanks
for your prompt response.
1) At the outset let me inform you that Netaji
was my paternal
great-grandfather's
student in patriotism, and the student repaid his
debt to his teacher by saving his teacher's
life.
2) As you may recall
the IAC is part of a larger and ancient patriotic
movement from the 19th century, which is deeply
aware of and immersed
in its history and
pays homage to all those who came before us and on
whose work we build on today, Netaji
included.
3) As IAC is a
pan-Indian movement we have to carefully calibrate our
choices for maximum impact and support. I am
sure you will not
disagree that the first
objective is to dislodge Gandhi and repel his
image from the common psyche rather than
replace him by anybody
specific.
4) The 4 names IAC has
proposed were selected after considerable
internal discussions in the wider movements, to
provide an initial
impact, balanced
representations and a better overall shot at success.
Since apparently I shall be personally
spearheading this campaign if
we have to do
so, I would find it far easier to make a case for Tagore
versus Gandhi, rather than Netaji versus Gandhi
for the Rs. 1,000
note.
5) I also want to make it clear that we are
presently not changing the
names IAC is
proposing. I am proceeding for the annual retreat /
meeting of IAC's parent body today, and I
shall certainly faithfully
convey the views
of your INA trust to my seniors.
6) May I also say, humbly, it is also because
of such sectarianisms
that the Govt is able
to successfully divide us. Hence we appeal to
all those with IAC not to press any names at
this stage and focus on
the common larger
objectives of nation building and anti-corruption..
Sarbajit
On 4/9/15, rs
Post by rs chhikara
Dear Sarbajit.
Thanks for your
response.
Post by rs chhikara
We at
Netaji Subhash Bose - INA Trust believe that Netaji Subhash
Bose was
Post by rs chhikara
not just another freedom
fighter. He was the greatest patriot during recent
Post by rs chhikara
centuries and his contribution to
India's freedom stands well above that of
Post by rs chhikara
Gandhi. The Pseudo Gandhi dynasty is not
worth speaking about.
Post by rs chhikara
There is urgent
need to recognise him as THE NATIONAL ICON of INDIA.
Post by rs chhikara
His ideology and
vision are extremely relevant today.
Post by rs chhikara
Brig R S ChhikaraExecutive Vice
ChairmanNetaji Subhash Bose-INA Trust
Post by rs chhikara
Sent: Thursday, 9 April 2015 8:34
AM
Post by rs chhikara
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] India
against Corruption wants pictures of other
Post by rs chhikara
freedom fighters on currency notes
Dear Brig R.S.
Chhikara
Post by rs chhikara
IAC had
already done the needful, and Netaji Subhash Chandra
Bose's
Post by rs chhikara
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we suggested, along with Veer Savarkar,
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