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[IAC#RG] HOW TO MAKE MPs AND MLAs BEHAVE
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"Venkatraman Ns" (via indiaresists Mailing List)
2018-03-22 14:28:58 UTC
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HOW TO MAKE MPs AND MLAs BEHAVE


Nandini Voice for The Deprived (nandinivoice.com), a Chennai based non
government organization conducted an All India study to ascertain what
people think about the behavior of MPs and MLAs, particularly in the
context of parliament remaining paralysed for more than fourteen days now
and violence in state assemblies with a MLA even going to the extent of
trying to hit others with the mike.The study was conducted by circulating a
message through a few popular blogs and individual communications in
several ways to the attention of cross section of people all over India.

The message conveyed the anguish of Nandini Voice for The Deprived about
several MPs and MLAs stalling the proceedings, rushing to the well,
shouting at the top of their voice even when Prime Minister is speaking and
using abusive language and paralyzing the functions, with total disregard
for presiding officers. People were asked to state their views on the above
deplorable conditions and suggest solutions to find a way out.

Even within three days of circulating the message, number of people
responded from all over India. The highlights of the views and suggestions
expressed are given below.

1. Without exception, every respondent shared the anguish about the present
conditions and stated that the august institutions of parliament and
assemblies have been brought into ridicule by misbehaving MPs and MLAs. In
the process, they are doing tremendous harm to the reputation of India and
Indians all over the world.

2. Most people expressed surprise and shock that the Speaker of Lok Sabha,
Chairman of Rajya Sabha and Speakers in the state assemblies simply allow
the misbehaving MPs and MLAs to get away with their behavior by simply
making oral appeals to them and without taking any effective steps to
impose necessary disciplinary measures and restore the dignity of
parliament and assemblies.

3. Most respondents expressed their frustration and anger but would not
know what they can do when the Speaker of Lok Sabha, Chairman of Rajya
Sabha and Speaker of state assemblies hesitate to exercise their known
powers and residual powers to make the house function smoothly. Respondents
think that simply adjourning the sessions when MPs and MLAs misbehave is no
solution.

4. As immediate solution , it was suggested that salaries and perks of all
MPs and MLAs should be totally cut for the entire day, if the session would
not function smoothly for minimum of one hour every day.

5. If more than fifteen hours would be lost due to the interruptions, then
seven days of salary and perks should be cut for every fifteen hours of
disruption.


6. Some respondents even suggested that marshal should be brought in to
remove the misbehaving members forcefully. But, others said that to start
with, salaries and perks should be cut and then it should be seen whether
situation would improve by this measure, before initiating further remedial
action.

All respondents felt that the ball is now clearly in the court of the
presiding officers and they should act with determination and courage to
restore dignity of the houses. If they would not do so, they would
disappoint the people and make them lose confidence in the process of
democracy as a form of quality governance.

Findings of the study has been submitted to the Speaker of Lok Sabha,
Chairman of Rajya Sabha and President of India for their consideration.


N.S.Venkataraman
Nandini Voice or The Deprived
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2018-03-24 07:36:52 UTC
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There is a TOTAL COLLAPSE of Merit based HRD system in India – On page 19 TOI Aug 6, 2016 news item caption being 34% of State mantris face criminal cases.

Page 10 TOI March 12, 2018 reporting an increase of 2% – 36% of all MPs, MLAs facing criminal charges – 1765 Law Makers Being Tried: Centre to SC

Instead of Mandate to reduce Tainted, on the contrary, they have INCREAESD!

We have our best playing & representing India in Shooting, Badminton, Cricket, Hockey – likewise we have to ensure they be MLAs, MPs right the way up after 73rd
+ 74th after CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS IN 1992.

CITIZENS rise – soon it will be a collective thrust to GET Ministry of Law & Justice + ECI to stop being CAGED PARROTS OF RULING PARTIES but be INDEPENDENT bodies.

consensus posting, NNFI CIRI Civil Society Allnc for 15 years, Trustee, promod
New Delhi based www.nnfi.org.in



From: Venkatraman Ns (via indiaresists Mailing List)
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Subject: [IAC#RG] HOW TO MAKE MPs AND MLAs BEHAVE


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India Against Corruption


HOW TO MAKE MPs AND MLAs BEHAVE


Nandini Voice for The Deprived (nandinivoice.com), a Chennai based non government organization conducted an All India study to ascertain what people think about the behavior of MPs and MLAs, particularly in the context of parliament remaining paralysed for more than fourteen days now and violence in state assemblies with a MLA even going to the extent of trying to hit others with the mike.The study was conducted by circulating a message through a few popular blogs and individual communications in several ways to the attention of cross section of people all over India.

The message conveyed the anguish of Nandini Voice for The Deprived about several MPs and MLAs stalling the proceedings, rushing to the well, shouting at the top of their voice even when Prime Minister is speaking and using abusive language and paralyzing the functions, with total disregard for presiding officers. People were asked to state their views on the above deplorable conditions and suggest solutions to find a way out.

Even within three days of circulating the message, number of people responded from all over India. The highlights of the views and suggestions expressed are given below.

1. Without exception, every respondent shared the anguish about the present conditions and stated that the august institutions of parliament and assemblies have been brought into ridicule by misbehaving MPs and MLAs. In the process, they are doing tremendous harm to the reputation of India and Indians all over the world.

2. Most people expressed surprise and shock that the Speaker of Lok Sabha, Chairman of Rajya Sabha and Speakers in the state assemblies simply allow the misbehaving MPs and MLAs to get away with their behavior by simply making oral appeals to them and without taking any effective steps to impose necessary disciplinary measures and restore the dignity of parliament and assemblies.

3. Most respondents expressed their frustration and anger but would not know what they can do when the Speaker of Lok Sabha, Chairman of Rajya Sabha and Speaker of state assemblies hesitate to exercise their known powers and residual powers to make the house function smoothly. Respondents think that simply adjourning the sessions when MPs and MLAs misbehave is no solution.

4. As immediate solution , it was suggested that salaries and perks of all MPs and MLAs should be totally cut for the entire day, if the session would not function smoothly for minimum of one hour every day.

5. If more than fifteen hours would be lost due to the interruptions, then seven days of salary and perks should be cut for every fifteen hours of disruption.


6. Some respondents even suggested that marshal should be brought in to remove the misbehaving members forcefully. But, others said that to start with, salaries and perks should be cut and then it should be seen whether situation would improve by this measure, before initiating further remedial action.

All respondents felt that the ball is now clearly in the court of the presiding officers and they should act with determination and courage to restore dignity of the houses. If they would not do so, they would disappoint the people and make them lose confidence in the process of democracy as a form of quality governance.

Findings of the study has been submitted to the Speaker of Lok Sabha, Chairman of Rajya Sabha and President of India for their consideration.


N.S.Venkataraman
Nandini Voice or The Deprived



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"Vijay Shivdasani" (via indiaresists Mailing List)
2018-03-25 06:50:29 UTC
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Mr Venkataraman,
This should be copied to the Chief Justice of India too, it is too
important an issue to exclude the Judiciary from its purview.

Capt Vijay Shivdasani Retd IN
Mumbai
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On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 1:06 PM, "national network center for innovation" <
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There is a TOTAL COLLAPSE of Merit based HRD system in India – On page 19
TOI Aug 6, 2016 news item caption being 34% of State mantris face criminal
cases.
Page 10 TOI March 12, 2018 reporting an increase of 2% – 36% of all MPs,
MLAs facing criminal charges – 1765 Law Makers Being Tried: Centre to SC
Instead of Mandate to reduce Tainted, on the contrary, they have INCREAESD!
We have our best playing & representing India in Shooting, Badminton,
Cricket, Hockey – likewise we have to ensure they be MLAs, MPs right the
way up after 73rd
+ 74th after CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS IN 1992.
CITIZENS rise – soon it will be a collective thrust to GET Ministry of Law
& Justice + ECI to stop being CAGED PARROTS OF RULING PARTIES but be
INDEPENDENT bodies.
consensus posting, NNFI CIRI Civil Society Allnc for 15 years, Trustee, promod
New Delhi based www.nnfi.org.in
*From:* Venkatraman Ns (via indiaresists Mailing List)
*Sent:* Thursday, March 22, 2018 7:58 PM
*Subject:* [IAC#RG] HOW TO MAKE MPs AND MLAs BEHAVE
To
India Against Corruption
HOW TO MAKE MPs AND MLAs BEHAVE
Nandini Voice for The Deprived (nandinivoice.com), a Chennai based non
government organization conducted an All India study to ascertain what
people think about the behavior of MPs and MLAs, particularly in the
context of parliament remaining paralysed for more than fourteen days now
and violence in state assemblies with a MLA even going to the extent of
trying to hit others with the mike.The study was conducted by circulating a
message through a few popular blogs and individual communications in
several ways to the attention of cross section of people all over India.
The message conveyed the anguish of Nandini Voice for The Deprived about
several MPs and MLAs stalling the proceedings, rushing to the well,
shouting at the top of their voice even when Prime Minister is speaking and
using abusive language and paralyzing the functions, with total disregard
for presiding officers. People were asked to state their views on the above
deplorable conditions and suggest solutions to find a way out.
Even within three days of circulating the message, number of people
responded from all over India. The highlights of the views and suggestions
expressed are given below.
1. Without exception, every respondent shared the anguish about the
present conditions and stated that the august institutions of parliament
and assemblies have been brought into ridicule by misbehaving MPs and MLAs.
In the process, they are doing tremendous harm to the reputation of India
and Indians all over the world.
2. Most people expressed surprise and shock that the Speaker of Lok Sabha,
Chairman of Rajya Sabha and Speakers in the state assemblies simply allow
the misbehaving MPs and MLAs to get away with their behavior by simply
making oral appeals to them and without taking any effective steps to
impose necessary disciplinary measures and restore the dignity of
parliament and assemblies.
3. Most respondents expressed their frustration and anger but would not
know what they can do when the Speaker of Lok Sabha, Chairman of Rajya
Sabha and Speaker of state assemblies hesitate to exercise their known
powers and residual powers to make the house function smoothly. Respondents
think that simply adjourning the sessions when MPs and MLAs misbehave is no
solution.
4. As immediate solution , it was suggested that salaries and perks of all
MPs and MLAs should be totally cut for the entire day, if the session would
not function smoothly for minimum of one hour every day.
5. If more than fifteen hours would be lost due to the interruptions, then
seven days of salary and perks should be cut for every fifteen hours of
disruption.
6. Some respondents even suggested that marshal should be brought in to
remove the misbehaving members forcefully. But, others said that to start
with, salaries and perks should be cut and then it should be seen whether
situation would improve by this measure, before initiating further remedial
action.
All respondents felt that the ball is now clearly in the court of the
presiding officers and they should act with determination and courage to
restore dignity of the houses. If they would not do so, they would
disappoint the people and make them lose confidence in the process of
democracy as a form of quality governance.
Findings of the study has been submitted to the Speaker of Lok Sabha,
Chairman of Rajya Sabha and President of India for their consideration.
N.S.Venkataraman
Nandini Voice or The Deprived
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Quality of Democracy and Governance depends upon quality and character of
Legislators and Public Servants. Need soon Basic Reforms beginning with
Electoral for real Democracy, Good Governance and public welfare.
Post by "Vijay Shivdasani" (via indiaresists Mailing List)
Mr Venkataraman,
This should be copied to the Chief Justice of India too, it is too
important an issue to exclude the Judiciary from its purview.
Capt Vijay Shivdasani Retd IN
Mumbai
9821147720
On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 1:06 PM, "national network center for innovation"
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There is a TOTAL COLLAPSE of Merit based HRD system in India – On page 19
TOI Aug 6, 2016 news item caption being 34% of State mantris face criminal
cases.
Page 10 TOI March 12, 2018 reporting an increase of 2% – 36% of all MPs,
MLAs facing criminal charges – 1765 Law Makers Being Tried: Centre to SC
Instead of Mandate to reduce Tainted, on the contrary, they have INCREAESD!
We have our best playing & representing India in Shooting, Badminton,
Cricket, Hockey – likewise we have to ensure they be MLAs, MPs right the
way up after 73rd
+ 74th after CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS IN 1992.
CITIZENS rise – soon it will be a collective thrust to GET Ministry of
Law & Justice + ECI to stop being CAGED PARROTS OF RULING PARTIES but be
INDEPENDENT bodies.
consensus posting, NNFI CIRI Civil Society Allnc for 15 years, Trustee, promod
New Delhi based www.nnfi.org.in
*From:* Venkatraman Ns (via indiaresists Mailing List)
*Sent:* Thursday, March 22, 2018 7:58 PM
*Subject:* [IAC#RG] HOW TO MAKE MPs AND MLAs BEHAVE
To
India Against Corruption
HOW TO MAKE MPs AND MLAs BEHAVE
Nandini Voice for The Deprived (nandinivoice.com), a Chennai based non
government organization conducted an All India study to ascertain what
people think about the behavior of MPs and MLAs, particularly in the
context of parliament remaining paralysed for more than fourteen days now
and violence in state assemblies with a MLA even going to the extent of
trying to hit others with the mike.The study was conducted by circulating a
message through a few popular blogs and individual communications in
several ways to the attention of cross section of people all over India.
The message conveyed the anguish of Nandini Voice for The Deprived about
several MPs and MLAs stalling the proceedings, rushing to the well,
shouting at the top of their voice even when Prime Minister is speaking and
using abusive language and paralyzing the functions, with total disregard
for presiding officers. People were asked to state their views on the above
deplorable conditions and suggest solutions to find a way out.
Even within three days of circulating the message, number of people
responded from all over India. The highlights of the views and suggestions
expressed are given below.
1. Without exception, every respondent shared the anguish about the
present conditions and stated that the august institutions of parliament
and assemblies have been brought into ridicule by misbehaving MPs and MLAs.
In the process, they are doing tremendous harm to the reputation of India
and Indians all over the world.
2. Most people expressed surprise and shock that the Speaker of Lok
Sabha, Chairman of Rajya Sabha and Speakers in the state assemblies simply
allow the misbehaving MPs and MLAs to get away with their behavior by
simply making oral appeals to them and without taking any effective steps
to impose necessary disciplinary measures and restore the dignity of
parliament and assemblies.
3. Most respondents expressed their frustration and anger but would not
know what they can do when the Speaker of Lok Sabha, Chairman of Rajya
Sabha and Speaker of state assemblies hesitate to exercise their known
powers and residual powers to make the house function smoothly. Respondents
think that simply adjourning the sessions when MPs and MLAs misbehave is no
solution.
4. As immediate solution , it was suggested that salaries and perks of
all MPs and MLAs should be totally cut for the entire day, if the session
would not function smoothly for minimum of one hour every day.
5. If more than fifteen hours would be lost due to the interruptions,
then seven days of salary and perks should be cut for every fifteen hours
of disruption.
6. Some respondents even suggested that marshal should be brought in to
remove the misbehaving members forcefully. But, others said that to start
with, salaries and perks should be cut and then it should be seen whether
situation would improve by this measure, before initiating further remedial
action.
All respondents felt that the ball is now clearly in the court of the
presiding officers and they should act with determination and courage to
restore dignity of the houses. If they would not do so, they would
disappoint the people and make them lose confidence in the process of
democracy as a form of quality governance.
Findings of the study has been submitted to the Speaker of Lok Sabha,
Chairman of Rajya Sabha and President of India for their consideration.
N.S.Venkataraman
Nandini Voice or The Deprived
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